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Opinion posted to a user-to-user forum (no developers here)

Postby FGFGDS » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:36 pm

 Edit: This is not customer service. Split from No DOCX save option and moved to General Discussion. — MrProgrammer 2020-06-14 00:09 UTC 
For a serious professional, this seems senseless: Taking a moral or quasi-technical stance on something so petty, at the expense of usability.


If users require an obvious addition to your program, especially due to circumstances that may well fall outside of their control, refusing their request is spiteful.

If you demand that your users crusade against the people that pay them, for the sake of some campaign of technical purity, you're more of a rabble-rouser than a revolutionary.

If you run in circles trying to blame and finger-point at other developers for your refusal to add functionality to your own program, you are being arrogant.

If a client or employer asks for a document in certain format, and you try to throw some spirited, hardline rhetoric at them, you will not make a very good impression.


Sure, I totally get it. It's technically backward. It sucks. Microsoft sucks. Everything sucks. People shouldn't be slapping themselves in the face. Unfortunately, the world is not often reasonable, and the people you cause frustration won't be your opposition; it'll be your userbase of potential allies. Slamming them and looking down on them won't help anybody.

I can just imagine some dour-faced dude in an ugly graphic tee, monologuing their elite ideology through their protonmail account against the last client he'll ever have. Espousers of free and open software have been trying to shake an unfriendly reputation for more than a decade, so that freeware products can actually get a foothold in more industries, and make a serious impact beyond the hobbyist market. Some programs have made incredible strides, and so have blossomed in the current digital climate. Others still have a lot of catching up to do... If they're still in the race at all.

By the sound of it, OpenOffice spent too much time complaining about the racetrack, and failed to make the distance. (Little sports metphor for ya there)
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Re: Opinion posted to a user-to-user forum (no developers he

Postby Villeroy » Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:00 pm

This forum is the most vivid part of the OpenOffice community. There are almost no more developers left. The official website is poorly maintained. For bugs and requirements there is still a bug tracking system as an administration tool for the absence of development.

Since 9 years https://libreoffice.org/ is the actively developed and maintained successor to OpenOffice forked from version 3.3. LibreOffice has more developers and helpers than OpenOffice ever had. It supports more foreign file formats better and includes a lot more features than OpenOffice.

If a client or employer asks for a document in certain format, ...

PDF is just fine for anybody anywhere on any device. We send everything as PDF and we do not accept Microsoft documents with any extra functionality beyond being readable.
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Re: Opinion posted to a user-to-user forum (no developers he

Postby John_Ha » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:56 pm

I suggest you read [Tutorial] Differences between Writer and MS Word files before pontificating further as you may then understand some of the problems developers face. While you are about it, rustle up the 50 to 500 person-years of unpaid programmers needed and then AOO and LO will no doubt address the problem better ...

... until Microsoft makes yet more changes which break the OOXML standard it laughingly purports to use. Be sure you understand the difference between Strict OOXML and Transitional OOXML (the default in MS Office).

You are using a free product for which you paid nothing.

If you want 100% compatibility with MS Office then buy MS Office.
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