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[Solved] Can't group objects

Postby Bcd » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:24 am

    I was following a tutorial on Draw. I was attempting to combine and copy two items.
    I clicked on the two items to be combined (producing a Green Dot perimeter), and hit shift. The right click menu did not contain the "group" option as indicated in the tutorial.
    The "Modify" Menu on the top of the screen contained "group" as an option, but was not highlighted and therefore, was not available.
    Thoughts?
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    Re: Can't group objects

    Postby FJCC » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:31 am

    Can you upload a file with a couple of objects that you cannot group? We can then check if others see the same behavior. To upload a file, click PostReply and look for the Upload Attachment tab just below the box where you type a response.
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    Re: Can't group objects

    Postby Bill » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:37 am

    In my testing, the "Group" option appears when the mouse pointer is over one of the selected objects when right-clicking. "Group" does not appear when the mouse pointer is somewhere else.
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    Re: Can't group objects

    Postby Your I.D.'s illegal » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:22 pm

    Click 1st object, hold ALT button while clicking 2nd object, release ALT button. Right click any of the highlighted objects and click -> Group.

    You can also hold CTRL button and mark objects dragging with left mouse button.
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    Re: Can't group objects

    Postby Bcd » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:55 am

    Find file attached. Don't laugh at it's simplicity! :D I'm trying to group the blue oval (bottom left) with the white oval inside it, to be able to copy and move them as a unit. This was the task in the tutorial I was following. However, ultimately, I want combine the oval (top right) with the name inside it to be able to copy and move them.
    I tried the other suggestions (thanks for all the responses BTW!) without success. As I said in the OP, the only mention of "group" I find is in in the pull down menu on top of page, and "group" is not highlighted (available).
    Thanks again!
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    Re: Can't group objects

    Postby FJCC » Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:15 am

    Concerning the white oval and blue oval at the lower left of your file, I can click at the center of the white oval to select it, Shift + Click on the blue oval, then right click on the combined selection and select Group. Does that not work for you?
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    Re: Can't group objects

    Postby Bill » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:21 pm

    Bcd wrote:...ultimately, I want combine the oval (top right) with the name inside it to be able to copy and move them.

    The oval and the name "Westringa fruitcosa" inside are not separate items, so they can't be grouped. No Group option will be shown when right-clicking and Group will be grayed out in the Menu Bar. The same applies for the rectangle and the name "Window". The other rectangle and the name "Tool box" are separate items. They can be grouped.

    The process described by FJCC works for me. Shift-clicking an object adds it to a selection. Alt-clicking does nothing.

    Edit: There is already a copy of the oval with "Westringa fruitcosa". Move it and you will see the copy.
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    Re: Can't group objects

    Postby Bill » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:28 am

    Bcd wrote:I clicked on the two items to be combined (producing a Green Dot perimeter), and hit shift.

    That does not select two items. Clicking the first item selects it. Clicking the second item drops the first item and selects the second item. Hitting SHIFT does nothing. The end result is only the second item is selected, so "Group" will not appear when right-clicking.
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    Re: Can't group objects

    Postby Bcd » Sun May 02, 2021 8:10 pm

    Why are the rectangle with text inside considered two separate items, while the oval with text inside are not? I think I created them the same way.
    I'm obviously no tech whiz. However, I can generally hold my own with apps. I have to say, I do not find this app intuitive. I'm struggling. Is there a tutorial that might help me?

    "The oval and the name "Westringa fruitcosa" inside are not separate items, so they can't be grouped. No Group option will be shown when right-clicking and Group will be grayed out in the Menu Bar. The same applies for the rectangle and the name "Window". The other rectangle and the name "Tool box" are separate items. They can be grouped.

    The process described by FJCC works for me. Shift-clicking an object adds it to a selection. Alt-clicking does nothing."

    Edit: There is already a copy of the oval with "Westringa fruitcosa". Move it and you will see the copy.[/quote]
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    Re: [Solved] Can't group objects

    Postby Bill » Mon May 03, 2021 11:09 pm

    Click the text "Tool box" in the rectangle. A pale blue rectangle appears, indicating that the text is in a Text box. Clicking the other text does not, so the other text it is part of the object, not a separate Text box.

    You can Google or search YouTube for tutorials.
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